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Emilija Kalajzic's avatar

I've read and commented on the other post before reading this one. The only thing I can say is I am now even more impressed with your grace in answering these comments <3

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StoicMom's avatar

❤🙏

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charlotte johnson's avatar

🤷‍♂️ We choose our path. If you’re giving interviews on this topic that can be widely seen, I would simply hope that there would be some attachment to known facts surrounding the topic. I just didn’t hear ANY of that in your interview.

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StoicMom's avatar

I can imagine the frustration and even think I would have felt it myself if a mom being interviewed didn’t seem to represent the experience accurately. Thank goodness there are more parent stories now being shared through places like PITT and Genspect!

I’m confident that the reason people hang out here at the SMP and that I get invitations to podcasts is because I have a bit of an unusual perspective. In the case of the BB interview, this was explicitly communicated to me. This may also be why Sasha, Stella, and others recommend my work to parents who reach out to them.

I don’t expect that everyone will like me or what I have to say; in fact, I know that plenty people don’t. Yet, it’s also clear my words resonate for many who’ve found comfort here at the SMP. A good chunk of my subscribers came here after hearing me interviewed on other podcasts.

Again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and feedback. I do appreciate it and consider it carefully. Wishing you all the best, Charlotte.

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charlotte johnson's avatar

Thanks Stoic Mom

I do hope we will all end at the same place when this madness is exposed. I have one prayer-that I live long enough to see it. It will come.

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StoicMom's avatar

I have a little different vision of the future I hope I live long enough to see--it's one where we all work together to better understand the experience our youth are having so we can find healthier solutions to their distress.

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charlotte johnson's avatar

C’mon, Stoic Mom, let’s have this conversation. Let’s talk about how we got here, not our weak coping methods as try to keep our sanity.

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StoicMom's avatar

It's interesting to me that you make this request. The way I see it is that I am talking about "how we got here." I think what may be happening is that my thoughts on this topic may differ in fundamental ways from yours. I am also not a fan of weak coping methods.

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charlotte johnson's avatar

I did find the last part of your conversation rational and helpful. I get it, we need to do certain things for self preservation and to model behavior for our kids without joining them in the mean, hateful way they are reacting to any questioning of their perception of reality. But we must speak the truth about how our kids wound up in this alternative reality. I have said and believed from the very beginning of my journey through this over 8 years ago, if the internet did not exist, we would not be here. The things our kids are exposed to and can access at a very tender, impressionable age is horrific and to ignore this is how we got here. I believe that most folks who have not been personally touched by this are completely ignorant-I meet them every day and before my life was changed forever, I was one of them.

The truth is like a lion-you don’t need to defend it, just set it loose.

We need to speak the truth.

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StoicMom's avatar

I totally agree with "if the internet did not exist, we would not be here. The things our kids are exposed to and can access at a very tender, impressionable age is horrific"

The influences on our children in this time and place make it incredibly difficult to instill in them healthy ways of being in the world.

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charlotte johnson's avatar

What a bunch of psychobabble! He asks about the seemingly decline of the 3 R’s and you two went off into the ridiculous weeds that had nothing to do with reality. I’m gonna try and hang in there, but this is really part of the problem from where I sit, Stoic Mom.

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StoicMom's avatar

Yeah, I seem to get that "psychobabble" comment often when I agree to interviews. Thank you for this feedback, and I'll try to pay more attention to that in the future. I do think I expressed that my life looks very different than most and so I don't deal with many of the same stressors--I tried to make this clear in the interview so that it didn't sound like I was representing every mom in this situation.

I'm curious if you've resonated with the content here at the SMP and if so, what's spoken to you?

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charlotte johnson's avatar

I do like the need to refocus on ourselves and to stop being victimized by our child and this ideological cult that tells us we are wrong not to affirm.

I too was at one point so beaten down that I simply retreated and couldn’t bare to even read anything about gender-it was like re-visiting the scene of the crime each time. I became suicidal. Finally, gratefully, I kept seeking help…a lot of it. After many doctors, many pills, and many dollars, I kept striving to live. A couple of alternative therapies each slowly let a little ray of light in. It’s taken almost exactly a year to find the freedom that I did not have last January, 2022.

That freedom has replaced the loneliest pain I’ve ever experienced, the tremendous guilt, the terrorizing fear that I had never felt, and the lifelong friends I lost. The grief and sadness remain, but the ability to speak the truth and step out and do what must be done keeps me from ruminating on the sadness. Speaking the truth and letting go the outcome is freedom which equals peace.

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StoicMom's avatar

Thank you for sharing this. I'm so glad you persisted in discovering what would free you from the guilt and fear.

"Speaking the truth and letting go the outcome is freedom which equals peace."

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charlotte johnson's avatar

Really disappointed-I’m a 3rd of the way in your interview.

Kids doing what kids should be doing-exploring themselves and questioning-yeah, true. But so far not ONE word about the grooming and indoctrination of this cult which has captured these kids online. Our stories are so eerily similar and for you to not mention this is really distressing.

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StoicMom's avatar

Hey there. Thanks for taking the time to listen and share your thoughts. This comment would indicate that you were expecting something very different from the conversation than you got. I suspect this was true for lots of listeners. It may help to read my article, Weirdly sane? if you're interested in better understanding why it didn't meet your expectations.

I do know how painful and destabilizing this circumstance! I've worked hard to get to a more grounded place and to now respond in a way that doesn't feel so distressing for me. The purpose of this Substack is to help other parents who are interested in a similar experience and what I hope to convey in any interviews. This is what's working for me, but I don't expect it will resonate for everyone. I do hope you find what works for you.

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